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Started by RedRaven, September 30, 2009, 10:33:24 AM

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Art Blade

:) haha, good story, mandru :)

Thanks for your cool link, I can only reply with this (and I intent your eyes to pop out of their sockets)  ;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iIo5Y-oPhk
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Art Blade

On a sidenote, regarding those music links... if you would like to keep a vid in high quality, check spearhead_22's post - that's some essential stuff there  ;)
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mandru

Now THAT"S what I'm talking about!  :-X

Thanks and thanks (vidkeep.com) Art.

The previous link you gave me for Space set me off on a 6 hour video binge. Now just the sight of that step sequencer down in the lower left of the frame has got my heart pumping like a trip hammer from adrenalin.

Once I start following this new line of research out I'm going to be MIA for some time.  ;D
- mandru
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Art Blade

 ;D ;D ;D ;D enjoy, brother  ;)
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Art Blade

by the way, all the tech talk regarding making vids and ripping dvds etc that came up here can be continued there  ;D
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Art Blade

Hey peeps :)

To all of you, but especially to mandru (vocoder / chat box): I've been seriously into the groove once I rediscovered an all-time favourite song, downloaded it using KeepVid (http://keepvid.com) to get the high quality version onto my rig, tuned my VLC player (http://www.videolan.org) using the spatial effects and equalizer, and all I can say is

get this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPLM5wEo2H4

and

GET DOWN!  ;D ;D ;D

Wooooooo-hoooooooo
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mandru

 :)

The usage of the vocoder was cool enough but I guess I was born with a dysfunctional funky bone or something. Afraid I'm just a rocker with an ear for techno and a few other music styles with esoteric themes.

It's funny, I don't like country but would sit and watch Roy Clark play guitar for hours because of the level of virtuosity he brings to his art.

I guess if a funk artist really was technically on the mark with themes that expanded the boundaries of their genre I'd endure the train wreck to witness the marvel.

Herbie Hancock comes to mind and as much as I despise scratch there was a Hancock number that played on MTV where he actually introduced the concept of scratch to the world. I actually liked the effect before others got a hold of it and wore it out for me.

Still it was an interesting piece Art and the tech info on KeepVid is worth looking into even if just for high quality copies of some of the anime episodes that I like.  :P
- mandru
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Art Blade

Quote from: mandru on December 13, 2009, 09:50:08 PM
I guess if a funk artist really was technically on the mark with themes that expanded the boundaries of their genre I'd endure the train wreck to witness the marvel.

OK, just please have a look... Johnny "Guitar" Watson (The only time ever I went to a live concert was to see him.) I had to find something you could actually watch him...


Skip to 1:45 in the vid to get to his solo. :)

Johnny Guitar Watson - Mister Magic (1977)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCBg0Yp4V6U

Ok, one more quote ;)

Quote from: mandru on December 13, 2009, 09:50:08 PM
Herbie Hancock comes to mind and as much as I despise scratch there was a Hancock number that played on MTV where he actually introduced the concept of scratch to the world. I actually liked the effect before others got a hold of it and wore it out for me.

Funny you should mention it, the tune is called "Rockit" and I got it right then when it was fresh out. I remember that moment because I had it played on speakers (really, the shop played records for you on their speakers!) and I had a tall black guy next to me, rummaging through his pile of records, when he looked up, turned to me, and said "man, that's something you've got there. Get it. This is going to make history" and I bought the record. What a strange and impressive situation back then in that shop.

I've played it countless times, to people I knew, on parties I was DJ'ing, and for some reasons, it became popular several years after I originally purchased it. Years later. Like it was something new. I couldn't believe it :)

Here's the vid they used to play on MTV

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nK0Pi4wC8Hk

Edit:

Funny combo, talking of guitars and Herbie Hancock.

Herbie Hancock - Jazz Fusion Cantelope Island

Skip to 5:10 to get the guitar solo :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrgP1u5YWEg
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Art Blade

argh, had to re-re-edit above post. :)
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Art Blade

Man. Found yet another version of Herbie Hancock's Cantaloop, this time with trumpets and sax, for the Jazz fans out there :)


Live with freddie hubbard, joe henderson, tony williams, ron carter:

blue note - herbie hancock - cantaloop island

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNAjQBOP-lU
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Art Blade

Just a sidenote on youtube and music vids:

Since I rediscovered that old tune (more bounce to the ounce by Zapp) I kept listening to it, and I thought how nice it would be to posess the actual album. These days you can forget about vinyl long play record albums if they are older than a couple of years, but on CD they still have a life. So I went to my local dealer and bingo, got three of Zapp's albums. Just ripped them to my rig and now I am proud and happy owner of genuine legally purchased music. I think once the industry understands that people who leech (download without upload) music from the net (mostly not even CD quality) wouldn't be customers in the first place (like, not everybody has the cash to get all the tunes they like) so they actually don't lose customers. But, on the contrary, people who surf the net, browse youtube, might find stuff there that reminds them. Like me. So, actually, free music on the net can actually create a need, make a person a customer. Like me :)

I also bought two more albums, thanks to youtube, by Funkadelic -- more old 70s funk. Thanks to shops like the one I regularly buy my music from, I can still get that stuff.

And now....

I'm getting down! SHAKE IT, BABY!!!  ;D
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mandru

 :-X

Very cool finds there Art.

Johnny Guitar Watson is definitely one of the artists that I could sit and watch. It was pretty amusing at the 5:00 minute mark he got tired of bending the D string up on his guitar to hold pitch and perfectly pulled off an on the fly tune up to correct.

And Rockit, what can I say. Man it takes me back.

As for the Jazz Fusion Cantelope Island (Cantaloop island? I see it named both ways), I really like the first version because it shows the skills of the four artists driving it home. Wow what a guitarist and that guitar looks like it has more processing power on it than the first lunar lander could bring to bear.

And the bassist was quite the w@&k horse. Rock solid. I think Hancock at one point during his solo must have improvised an unexpected key change because we see the bass player look over at him, grin and nod as if to say "You think you can run away from me? I'm your shadow, I'll stay under you and still I'll get there before you!"

The drummer was also dead on too.

Thanks for putting those up.
- mandru
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Art Blade

glad you liked it :)

I once read "Cantaloupe" even. No idea what is correct. However, Hancock was so bloody young and already a genius... some people... some people. :)
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Art Blade

Come on guys...

guitars?

mandru...

Eric Clapton live, "Cocaine"  ;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYS732zyYfU

and the original J.J. Cale, Cocaine

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSzU4zP74ng
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RedRaven

Best guitar player i have ever heard is a guy called Django Reinhardt. Not saying he is the best ever, but he is a contender, really amazing guy.
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Art Blade

oh yes! Good hint! There are many different styles, and good players.

Django Reinhardt - J'attendrai Swing 1939
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iJ7bs4mTUY

Django Reinhardt New York City Festival - Dark Eyes (not Django himself, still good. Watch the percussionist :) )

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4a64uyOUw_A



I also like Paco de Lucía regarding flamenco guitar.

Entre dos aguas (1976) full video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2oyhlad64-s
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Art Blade

Bah, how come I always need to find some stuff after I posted... had to edit the Django links. :)
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mandru

 :-X

Every time someone posts a good music link I loose an hour or so running down related links!
- mandru
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Art Blade

 ;D same here -- and, in the aftermath of posting, one more  ;)
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RedRaven

Lately have been listening to music of a more chilled nature whilst gaming. Mostly a band called Tortoise, and bits of Ry Cooder & Taj Mahal.
Its all good ;D .
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Art Blade

Quote from: RedRaven on January 03, 2010, 06:06:41 AM
Ry Cooder

Wow, reminds me... you might want to check out "Ry Cooder & the Buena Vista Social Club" (there is a docu called that) with wonderful music from Cuba's almost forgotten artists...  :-X
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RedRaven

Cheers Art, will track it down :-X
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fragger

Thanks for jogging my memory Art, must try and see that again soon.

deadman1

Speaking of good music check this out, it´s the Rock and roll hall of fame concert at Madison square garden  with U2, Bruce Springsteen, Stevie Wonder, Paul Simon, Art Garfunkel, Mick Jagger, Sting, Billy Joel, John Fogerty, Sam Moore, Jeff Beck, Metallica, Crosby, Stills, Nash & Friends and more that aired on swedish tv on dec 30. It´s availible until jan 6 so be quick  ;)

http://svtplay.se/v/1830782/rock_and_roll_hall_of_fame_25_ar/rock_and_roll_hall_of_fame_25_ar_-_otextat?cb,a1364145,1,f,-1/pb,a1364142,1,f,-1/pl,v,,1830782/sb,p123777,1,f,-1

Edit: Unfortunately after I posted this it turns out that its restricted to swedish viewers only and therefor it wont w@&k for those of you with a non swedish IP adress.

RedRaven

Wow, what a large and varied line-up. cheers deadman :-X .

- now I know how Art feels, clicked link and it tells me that because I'm not in Sweden I can not watch it. :( . sounded like a good show though.
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