Gaming Rig specs

[PZ]

 :-X

[OWGKID]

 :-X

[fragger]

The Fury X seems pretty impressive, taken all round. Not a gigantic increase in performance over other existing high-end GPUs, except maybe at the ultra-high end (which is where we'd all like to be anyway :-()) I like the idea of included liquid cooling. 4GB RAM isn't quite as future-proof as I'd like though, but it's still early days for HBM.

$979 AUD? My hip pocket just clammed up ??? I think I'll wait until prices come down and HBM becomes more widely established. Or I win the lottery.

[OWGKID]

For now, it is beaten by OC'ed 980/780 Tis IIRC. OCing of the Fury is also limited (voltage cannot be tweaked ????), but I guess we will see new drivers and the ability to OC in the future ^-^ Can't wait for DX12 Benchmarks :-D

[mandru]

I'm thinking about updating the Ram in my system.  I currently have two 2gb sticks @4gb DDR3.  I've not decided if I'm going to go up to 8gb or 16gb because I'm not sure of the difference between of installing 2 sticks vs 4 sticks in a system and if it really matters at all.

If I decide to go for 16gb ram would it be better to have four 4gb sticks or two 8gb sticks?  Or even possibly being satisfied with two 4gb sticks for a total of 8gb?

I understand that the ram slots are paired 1&3 and 2&4 so the two 8gb stick option above would leave slots 2&4 open but what I don't get is if there would be a marked difference in performance speeds favoring one layout or the other.

The ram sticks are cheap so it's not a matter of cost for me at this time.  I'll focus on cost (and latency) when I've gotten my head around the efficiency balance to better figure out what I want to do next.

While I'm aware this motherboard could expand up to 32gb with four 8gb sticks I see no reason to get silly about it.  :-D

[Stiku]

Would need to know your CPU and MOBO give more advice. This is to get the info for the max supported memory speed, and max supported OC memory speeds(1066/1333/1600/1866/2033/2300), and does the CPU support them. If you choose a lower speed memory, then low latency memory can compensate for the lack of bandwidth with faster data handling. Though 1600/1866 is actually more than enough for any app or game that is on the market, only benchmarks use the high level bandwidths.

Rule of thumb is that you should have same memory sticks on all slots to avoid problems, and there no performance benefits having 2 sticks over 4 or vice versa. But if you break one of the memory sticks, its easier to change one 4GB stick and one 8GB stick(price wise). dual memory channels w@&k in pairs as you mentioned allready, and doesnt matter if they are place 1&3 or 2&4.

Games and software will run easily with 8GB of ram, and pretty much all apps, memory intense apps will swap to harddisk if they run out of memory.

And to be silly about it, I got 32gb of ram at 1600mhz 7-7-7-21-1T, and yes Kingston HyperX ones.

[PZ]

I think we can all agree that Stiku is our resident IT specialist +1

[mandru]

Mobo is Asus Sabertooth P67 with a i7 -3770K 350GHz CPU.  Current DDR3 mem sticks (two of them) are G.Skill 2 giggers for a total of 4gb.  I don't remember the series name or the fancy numbers for the mem sticks.  I do understand that the mem sticks need to be from the same production lot balanced in parity among themselves as well as balanced in placement on the mother board slots that they are installed in.

I also understand that the (as above described) mem sticks have a latency number that equates to the Lower the Faster.

What I don't understand is the 2 stick versus 4 stick comparisons or advantages when they are loaded and running at the same total gb level or if it makes any difference at all.  I've heard that a 4 stick arrangement will use more power but I don't know if there is a speed advantage swap out for that extra power consumed.

[Stiku]

There is no difference in performance between 2 or 4 sticks with your motherboard,the CPU is has a dual channel memory controller, also if you have 8 microchips in one memory stick and size is 4GB, and 16 chips on a another stick and size being 8GB, powerdraw will be the same.

2 or 4, its mainly the upgrade possibility for later and fault finding things that are different with these two. performance will be the same either way in your case.

[mandru]

OK, thanks Stiku.  It's either two 4gb or two 8gb sticks that I'll be going with.

Since there's no performance enhancement to be gained by drawing on the dual channel memory controller I'll save myself a few pennies and not fill the ram slots.

[mandru]

Mrs. mandru and I were at the supermarket last night which is a rare occurrence because I tend to treat going shopping like it's a trip to the museum and she's in a hurry to grab and get out.  Read that as I usually get left home.  ::)

In view of my recent posts in this thread I encountered a product in the meat department that started me giggling.  Somewhat annoyed at my drawing stares Mrs. mandru asked "What is it now?"

I pointed at a packaged Rack of Lamb and replied "I was just talking to the guys on OWG and this describes exactly what I want to upgrade on my computer."

Not getting it (or should I say stepping into my trap) she asked "What's that?"

I shrugged and replied "I was asking the guys about my computer's Lack of Ram."  >:D

[OWGKID]

 

[Art Blade]

heh, spoonerism strikes again :-D

[fragger]

  Nice one mandru :-X

[Stiku]

I want to know did she get what you were saying either?

[PZ]

Good one, mandru 

Sounds like you've been thinking about computers a few minutes too long.  :-()

[Art Blade]

well.. as long as he doesn't try to install a rack of lamb into his rig, all is good. :-D

[PZ]

 

[mandru]

 :-D

After 19 years together Mrs. mandru is fully aware and quick on the uptake of my quirky sense of humor.  We'd have never survived otherwise.

She has admitted that my playing with and seeking out Spooner word pairs creates a somewhat contagious environment.

She's an instructor and seminar presenter for her job.  It's not uncommon for her to come home at the end of her day and give me a mild scolding because of a tangled pair of words that have popped out during one of her presentation assignments.  Often with results ranging from mildly embarrassing to the hilarious.

When that happens she's learned to wait a moment, then rein in her listeners, and blame me for infecting her with my punny musings.  Then with a freshly awake audience she's able to move back into the more serious matters of her presentation.

[Art Blade]

hehe, the pun fart of a presentation.. :-D

[mandru]

 ???


That was very good Art. 

[Art Blade]

thank you.  :-D

[Art Blade]

My old rig croaked so today I bought a new one.

lots of air intakes and big fans.. and some more stuff.  :-()

+ 130 GB SSD from my old rig
+ 1 TB HD from my old rig

MidiTower CM Storm Trooper Black
730 Watt Thermaltake Smart SE
ASUS SABERTOOTH Z97 MARK S
Intel® Core i7-4790K 4x 4,000MHz Socket 1150 Haswell
16GB G.Skill Kit DDR3-RAM (2x 8GB DDR3-1600)
2,000GB HDD S-ATA III 64MB Cache
256GB SSD
Blu-ray/CD/DVD-ReWriter Drive (Blu-ray/DVD+/-R/RW, Dual Layer)
ZOTAC 4GB nVidia GeForce GTX 980 AMP! PCIe 3.0 DVI, HDMI, 2x miniDP
Realtek ALC1150 7.1 Channel
4x USB 2.0, 4x USB 3.0, 2x Gbit LAN, HDMI, Display Port 1.2, Audio Surround/SPDIF
Corsair Hydro H100i GTX CPU water cooling

Benchmark Result 15232 (3D Mark 2011)
Dimensions: 250mm x 605.6mm x 578.5mm

Paid 1,850 €

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[Binnatics]

Sounds about just right :-D

Excellent choice man :)

[Art Blade]

ta.  :-D